looks like I've missed the last post somehow - anyway, an update is unlikely.

OK, I did suspect that was the case.

Thanks.

Is this compatible with the new Community Patch?

DANNY

A bit further up in this thread I explained why these mods are incompatible. Miracle.freak's combi mod is the way to go.

Hi,

I've just made the game 'mod-friendly' using the the SS2 Tool v.3.6, etc - and installed, obviously, Straylight AdaoB and SHTUP Beta 6. However, I can't stand the constantly spawning enemies/zombies, etc so also want to install Zygo's 'Ultimate' Spawn Mod (and a few other mods as well). However, the SS2 Mod Manger tells me that the latter conflicts with ADaob - need I be worried, or there some sort of 'work around' for this? If there isn't, then - unfortunately - I will have to dump ADaoB.

Any advice would be appreciated,

Thanks,
DANNY

I would really love to use this mod in a game that I am already playing. Is there any way to make it compatible with my savegame(s)?

You believe right.

It does since some time now. I therefor removed the advice to rename hydro2.dif when using the modmanager.

According to that, if I understood correctly it should look like this?

[copy&move]
m Hydro2.dif xHydro2.dif

an example... tried that, didn't work (

I'm fairly sure that the dif files are just special save game files which the game loads prior to the actual save, so making a 'blank' version would just junk the level, unfortunately. You can find all the objects in them, so it would be theoretically possible to hexedit the changes in, but practically I'm not going to do it (and I wouldn't expect anyone else to, either) for several reasons, some technical but not least because this altered dif file would break a vanilla game which tried to use it.

I'd guess the most elegant solution- much as I dislike suggesting extra work for other people- would be to make the mod manager nuke the dif files if the mod has changed hydro2 or shodan levels. If it doesn't already.

You should add note of renaming hydro2.dif-file since this mod cointains full version of second Hydroponics level.

I wonder if there is way to make some sort of template hydro2.dif-file which doesn't contain any level data. And its size can't be zero, otherwise game will crash.

No, it's only for the original campaign.

to disable patch only for this particular mission while keeping everything else patched just rename file hydro2.dif in your Shock2 game folder to e.g. hydro2.dif.bak and the ultimate spawn should work for deck3 as well.

Okay, ich weiß jetzt was passiert ist. Das SS2Tool hat eine install.cfg Datei in deinen SS2 Ordner kopiert, die einen englischen Spracheintrag hat. ("language english") Du hättest den nur in "language german" ändern müssen. Naja, zu spät.

Ich habe einen Deutsch Patch zusammengestellt, der dieses und einen Reihe weitere Probleme der deutschen Version behebt.

After you installed the patch and before you use any mods you need to make your game mod ready.
The cubes should appear once you are on the Von Braun.

Actually I did a complete reinstall of the game, mod manager, then just runnin the spawn mod. Still the same.

Weird thing is that we sort of fixed the problem. I say "sort of" because the solution we came up with is that it's completely random if the mod works or not. Out of about 20 or so restarts of the game, it actually worked 2 times for no reason what so ever. So basically we just started the game, ran through to the start of MedSci1 and if it crashed we did it again changing nothing. No idea why but eventually it works.

Once the game is up and saved it seems to work just fine, it's just a hassle to get past that first spawn on MedSci1.

Thanks for the help, excellent suggestions.

Thanks a lot Kolya! It worked.

I just added the MP fix to the original archive. It did seem to work since it layed out the red select boxes in a line instead of locked to the cam. Anyway, for what ever reason it worked perfectly when I did as you suggested. Just adding the MPfix to the SS2 Mod Manger and activating after the mod itself.

*Edit*
This is getting even more weird... it seems it only worked that once. On restarting it just does the exact same thing as before.

I'm trying to get this fix working for a little multiplayer SS2 action.

Using the SS2 mod manager, all other mods work just fine. When using the Ultimate Spawn mod only though (with the MP fix) the host crashes as soon as MedSci1 comes up. The client does not crash however. When someone else hosts that computer gets the crash, so it's not local to one install or anything like that. Starting a multiplayer game without anyone joined in works just fine also.

I have no idea what causes this, but I'd appricate any suggestions on what to do.

That's because they both replace all the level-files (*.mis). You can't combine these mods.

There are certain zones in SS2 that have a "hardwired" spawn rate that won't be affected by modifications to the general spawn-rate. It shouldn't be a complete deck though... but merely rooms or corridors.

Maybe you might want to PM Zygo about this. He's known as Zygoptera over at TTLG.

Unfortunately the spawn mod and random are incompatible as they both have to replace the original mission files. I do have plans to add the spawner functionality to random though, which ought to accomplish much the same thing.

This is a modification for SS2 which alters the respawn levels in the original levels by altering the levels themselves (as discussed on TTLG). This should eliminate problems people have been having with using no_spawn in user.cfg and finding little effect. Four settings are provided, including an enhanced respawn mode which doubles the rate of spawn.


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Zygo's 'Ultimate' Spawn Mod
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for System Shock 2.

This mod allows a choice of different spawn levels for SS2- normal, enhanced (doubled), no spawn and no spawn including cameras. The no spawn setting is designed specifically for those who use no_spawn in user.cfg per the patch readme instructions but find that spawning continues. Since the mod deletes the active ecologies spawning should be totally eliminated.

NOTE: This does not effect 'plot' spawning in any way, shape or form- only the random, ecology based spawning.

Important: This mod should be considered incompatible with previous save games. It is very highly advised that you start a new game when using this mod for the first time.

Instructions
============

0) Ensure that you have backups of the original mission files available.

1) Unzip mis files from the included MOD-folder into your SS2 installation folder, with overwriting.

OR

2) Use zombe's mod manager. Note: The MM recognises the extension .ss2mod rather than zip, but will load the archive fine in any case.

3) Upon arriving at medsci1 there will be four cubes attached to the player. Each selects a different respawn level, described on the command line (top center of the screen). Go into interface mode (TAB) and click your selection.

MP note: Whichever spawn level is selected is selected for all players. All players *must* use the same version of the levels (at the least odd results may occur, at worse the game will crash).

Disclaimer/ Legal Stuff
=======================

This mod has had only basic testing- I obviously haven't played through the game 4+ times to test it, especially as I will almost certainly not use it myself. Should there be any bugs let me know and I will (probably) fix it.

Provided as is, no warranty or guarantee of any kind implied. Use at your own risk.

Mirroring or other distribution of this mod is permitted, so long as distribution is free.

While this mod is based on the original levels for SS2, it was not made nor is it supported by Irrational Games, Looking Glass Systems, EA games or Eidos Interactive. If things go wrong do not look to them for help.

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24/09/07 For anyone trying to get MP working, I have had confirmation that it is possible to play MP using this mod. Unfortunately, others have had trouble. To give yourself the best chance of it working, ensure that each person in the game has, at minimum, the same gamesys and the same mission files.




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