The entire point of integrating Fixed Objects into SCP and SHTUP is so users don't have to keep track of yet another mod.

This is the reason why you should only install Fixed Objects if you suffer from uncontrollable twitchy OCD spasms when you don't have the latest latest latest versions of everything.

I'll take a look if I can modify something together when I get some time again.

necessary no, fun, yes. besides, we like our vanilla resources.

generator good to go, thanks.

pistol texture looks ok, but now that there is no rush anymore, maybe I'll just wait and see whether you can do something about the missing trigger and oddly rotated grip (see the lame mockup).

one more to wrap the beta5 objects up - laspistol text is reversed. @Olfred would you kindly.

we'll talk about how the frick Goggles even holds that thing and where the trigger is sometime later. //lame mockup attached.


//aand I lied - sgen1.bin and sgen2.bin (normal and overloaded shield generator), the second model is slightly offset on the z-axis, needs to be moved up a bit so there wouldn't be a noticeable model pop/jump when the models are swapped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhv6-Tyr2ng

If you still want any changes or need something done just tell me so.
What about the world model, should it get the same treatment? Just with non illuminated lights?

No they weren't square.

Made them square now (eyeballed, not perfect). Is this better now?

I see.

Is this to your liking?
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Can you change a texture with ingame magic?

Since stasis shots are already color coded, just maybe make the light color match the shot color?

not very difficult
It's or_ and green_ (strangely enough or_ is missing a counterpart)
I can change it to anything you want
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I'd say the best approach to the 8-unit ladder issue would be to overwrite the vanilla model with the one that fixes the offset rails but maintains the oddball 7-point-whatever stack spacing, then include the exactly 8 units ladder model in the resource package so it can be selectively swapped out by anyone who really feels like manually fixing ladder stacks.

Yes, the engine uses vertex lighting.  You can make the lighting look better for large areas by subdividing surfaces (though the BSP optimiser might well optimise them away if you're not careful.)

arrived to the same conclusion - EX and lets fix the maps accordingly. path of the least pain.

type

hilight_obj_type ladders

into the Shocked command window and hit enter, all ladders will be hilighted blue.

rick1 obj 167 for example, it's in the starting room.

The fixed ricklad8.bin floors differently because the vanilla version has a rail on one side lower than the rail on the other side. In the fixed version both rails are the same height, but each rail is still essentially the same length. And my point wasn't that they both floor the same (obviously they don't), but that the vanilla model was also an oddball height.

A replacement that significantly changes the height of the ladder (e.g. going from 7.6 units high to 8 units high) isn't a replacement, it's essentially a new, different asset.

took a look at the ladders, LH makes my head explode as it results in a non-round Z-coordinate number when floored so definitely not,

So just like the vanilla Rick Ladder 8 then. Suitability for being a drop-in replacement without having to move things around is supposed to be the Number One priority.

Hmmm, that's strange, except for the EX models, I've used the same bounding box as the original one. So in theory they should all have the same value when floored. I guess I could fiddle around with the export settings a bit and set another point as origin.
I can still shift a ladder up an down position wise if needed. The test should be more about which is the best length to go forward with as to achieve a non map fiddle way.

Dang it, I need to update the first post and check the SCP files.

Sure, that guy is console.bin. Though all its screens would have to be un-mirrored so their text wouldn't appear backwards when using SHTUP.

Speaking of backwards textures, I could have sworn this had already been fixed years ago, but the vanilla soda pack model (cans.bin) has its texture backwards on half its sides:

Oh boy, we've got some testing to do.

On another topic, just asking here, how much of a pain in the ass is it to mirror a model? I've often thought it would be handy to have a flipped version of this guy:

Oh boy, I just took a look in Blender, and yeah, they are messed up.
My favorite is the built in overlap on ricklad4.

I'll see when I get some time on my hand that I will properly address the issues at hand.

Ideally, no map adjustments would be required.

I've noticed some issues with the ladder models, but I'm not sure what the best way is to go about fixing them.

Rick Ladder 4 (ricklad4.bin) is supposed to be 4 DromEd units tall. But it's actually only 3.99651 units tall. But more significantly, the top of one of the side rails is significantly shorter on one side than the other. So when stacking them, you can either position them so there's no gap, but some flickery overlap, or no overlap but have a gap on one side.

Rick Ladder 8 (ricklad8.bin) you'd think from the name it would be 8 units tall, right? Nope, it's 7.67535 units tall. Well, no fixing that. But this guy has its side railings at different heights on both sides, The shift on both sides appears to be the same, with the left side a little too low and the right side equally too high, so these ladders can stack with each other fine, but as soon as you try to stack them with other ladder models you get gaps or overlaps again.

Rick Ladder 16 (ricklad6.bin) is, you guessed it, not 16 units tall. But it's 16.0099, so close enough to be corrected without throwing anything off in-game. This model has the same issue as ladder 8, where the rails are high on one side and low on the other side.

Rick Ladder (rickladd.bin) is the only one that's not fucked up in some way. It's intended to be 2 units tall, and it is indeed exactly 2 units tall, with rails the same length on both sides.

What a mess.

Okay, how about this...
- ricklad4, make both side rails exactly 4 units tall.
- ricklad8, assuming the rails are the same height on both sides, vertically center them. This should result in a slight decrease in the overall model height, but preserve its ability to seamlessly self-stack.
- ricklad6, make both side rails exactly 16 units tall.

@voodoo, what do you think?