Cool. Thanks System!

the proper question would be, "what's up with ALL the models straight out of various other games?"

What is with the pipe wrench straight out of Half-Life: opposing force? I saw it in a SS2 play through and i was just wondering what was going on...

it must be a part of the model.

posted in the orig TTLG topic, maybe someone still has it somewhere.

One other thing regarding the Shotgun Hybrid model. I generated a .e file which lists the following:

MATERIALS{
1,"Material1",GOURAUD,TMAP "SG_BARL2.pcx",0,TRANSP 0;
2,"Material2",GOURAUD,TMAP "SG_CHAM2.PCX",0,TRANSP 0;
3,"Material3",GOURAUD,TMAP "SG_PUMP.pcx",0,TRANSP 0;
4,"Material4",GOURAUD,TMAP "SG_STOCK.pcx",0,TRANSP 0;
5,"Material5",GOURAUD,TMAP "hybsect.gif",0,TRANSP 0;
6,"Material6",GOURAUD,TMAP "Hhands.gif",0,TRANSP 0;
7,"Material7",GOURAUD,TMAP "MCGHead.gif",0,TRANSP 0;
8,"Material8",GOURAUD,TMAP "HYBSECl.gif",0,TRANSP 0;
9,"Material9",GOURAUD,RGB 0,254,0,TRANSP 0;
}

Those that start with "SG" are for the shotgun he is carrying. The files are not there in the mesh\txt16 directory, but files of the same name are in the obj\txt16 directory. So, I grabbed copies of those and stuck them in in mesh\txt16. It does make for a more detailed and better looking shotgun in the shotgunner's hands. But, there is an obvious bit of pink in the trigger guard. What is the best way to go about fixing it? Is the problem occurring because there used to be a file in the mesh\txt16 directory that had the same name (SG_CHAM2) but was actually a different file, or were the model's hand different, or what?


[dump000.jpg expired]
[SG_CHAM2.png expired]

@Kolya:
I think some of your screen shots in the 2nd post depict things that you have removed. dump000, dump003, and dump011 are all stuff you will not see if you run the currently available mod.

@voodoo47:
You dml'ed Bronson and her crew out of the miniskirts. Good call! However, you used the Rickenbacker models as replacements. But, the Rickenbacker models are military while Bronson and her people are Von Braun security. Wouldn't the corpmal1.bin and corpfem1.bin models be a better choice? Arcaniac dressed those models in security garb.

BTW, regarding the corpses that have have spikey things coming out of their left hands mentioned somewhere: It only seems to occur with the Rickenbacker corpse models, corf_ric.bin and corm_ric.bin. To paraphrase Schultzie, I know nothing, nothing! - when it comes to meshes, otherwise I would see if I could fix it.

Is there anyway to get a copy of the mod from before it was Reduxed?

This is an interesting mod. I have been playing around with it to see which parts I like. Some look parts look very good; others, not so much. So, I have been poking at it innards to try to figure out what does what so I can delete the less desirable pieces.

BTW, a transvestite protocol droid... WTF?

Anyway, the stuff in the /obj folder was easy enough to figure out with the help of the BSP Viewer. But, it throws an error when I try to use on the /mesh stuff. Much of that makes sense by the names, enemies obviously, as well as the corpses and ghosts. I used the BintoE tool to find out the dependencies for some of the stuff. But, there are a few things that I'm not sure about. gstm_med.bin is a good example. The name suggests a male ghost on MedSci, but deleting the file made no discernible difference on the apparitions on that level. Plus, there are also files that have names like ghost_m.bin, so maybe gstm does not stand for a male ghost. I also used ShockEd to go to the point where the apparition appears, but I could not see a ghost object to look up in the editor to get its shape name.

The .e file list these materials (gMliveo.gif, goffhand.gif, glabcoat.gif, GCOMslak.gif), all of which are in the /mesh/txt16 directory and all of which look ghostly enough, but where are the ghosts that use this AI? And, how can I find the ghost objects in ShockEd so that I can look them up in the Object Editor? Also, there is a file called gstm_sec.bin. All the rest of the gstm files have an underscore then a short name for a level. What level does sec stand for?

Finally, there are a few files, such as NAVFOFF.bin, that look like they are related to the 3 career path choices. As it stands now, there are 3 different NPC voices for the 3 services, but the 3 NPC characters are all played by protocol droids. Did this mod originally have someone or something in the different uniforms on the station level?

nuh-uh-uuh, the all spider mod comes first. floating psi spiders!

.   .   .   .   .   .   with new PSI pissing ability.

nope - I just dml'd them. also, the previous version of the mod is still attached to the first post.

nuh-uh-uuh, the all spider mod comes first. floating psi spiders!

hot blondie bullshit shock.

Link plz.

the game's called System Shock, not hot blondie bullshit shock.

ok, new SCP compatible version, because we can. also, System owes me (and Olfred) a bottle of vodka.


//ok, screwed up AI textures - batch converted to png to solve the problem (more screwups here and there, but the almost one hour total time I've spent on this is just enough). also changed models of Bronson and her men to something saner, because you DON'T wear a f*cking miniskirt and high heels when making a last stand. I see that System has managed to download the pack already - he will need to get it again. also, he now owes me two vodkas.

yes, you will also need to place the texture into DataPermMods/mesh/txt16.

we've seen worse. basically, the model you want to use, including its texture, needs to be placed in DataPermMods/mesh to properly override the default one.

Me neither, I just googled it and ignored "did you mean 'kamikaze'?"

does anyone know what mesh the protocol robot uses? I mean the robot that kamakazi charges you before blowing up. I'm really interested in using that mesh with the Rebirth mod. I saw the mod/ texture for the kamakazi droid here http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mp9GTcVDE3E and I really liked it. could someone tell me what mesh that droid is using?

Plus it uses models from other games, most notably halflife and Alien Vs Predator.

The models alone seem like a worthy replacement for rebirth?  Why isn't this more recommended?

If I remember correctly the droid model is still in there, just disabled. I really don't remember what the problem was.

Arcaniac is not likely to answer, he hasn't posted here for a long time.
But if they look like AvP2 marines, they probably are.

It's compatible with all of them. Ask MOTHER about mod compatibility.

Yeah, mother knows all the answers