SS2 list of broken and lowpoly objects that need fixing

[6649d5dde63c4Olfred]

Olfred, think about what you're saying. If it was possible to render transparent objects correctly without using depth sorting, I'm pretty sure the guys who wrote the engine would know it.

I didn't say it was possible.
I just assumed that when using PNG another method is used, and for that you would need to remove the settings which would trigger the "old" one.

But well, I did some further testing and this method also doesn't get you the desired result. It's missing the additive you would get when viewing through several layers of transparency.

[6649d5dde6588Olfred]

Turret corpses for all turrets.

[6649d5dde67edZylonBane]

Turret corpses good.

Locker models good.

Curved pipes look good.

Conduit models look good, and floor properly, but that texture on the ends looks really strange. Could you texture the ends in the same style as the unbroken conduits? I know it doesn't really make sense, but it's SS2's style.

[6649d5dde68f8Olfred]

Did you use SHTUP textures or original ones to check on it?

[6649d5dde69f3ZylonBane]

Original.

[6649d5dde6b30Olfred]

Hmm... well.
For me it looked quite good like that, like ripped cables. But shouldn't be a big problem to change it. It just looks weird  to me.

[6649d5dde6cd1ZylonBane]

To me, at the scale that the texture is used, it just looks like a hash of multicolored pixels. There might even be some palette #0 transparency problems with that texture... I'm not 100% sure, it was like 1AM when I was looking at it. The second issue is that it doesn't match the ends of the unbroken conduit models. It's a visual consistency thing. If you smash out the middle of a run of conduit, the ends of the pieces on the ground and the ends of the pieces still on the wall should look the same.

[6649d5dde709cOlfred]

There might even be some palette #0 transparency problems with that texture...

There is.

Also, stupid retarded UV maps on the conduit, there is basically no way of doing a nice ending of the poles.

EDIT:
new conduit parts

[6649d5dde72d1System Shocked]

This is just a reminder, with all that's on your plates, concerning the floating LED's on the security camera http://i.imgur.com/CmieUeu.jpg and the warning signal transmit array http://i.imgur.com/sEEfcaw.jpg that I posted earlier.

Assuming that you want these fixed at some point in time, I haven't seen the ".bin" files/details for these posted yet. If they're not to be fixed, that's fine.

[6649d5dde7483voodoo47]

I need go through the topic and update everything. was planning to do it yesterday, but oh well..

[6649d5dde7599ZylonBane]

I personally don't consider 99% of the floating colored squares to be a problem. You have to be really looking for problems to even notice those.

[6649d5dde769evoodoo47]

some of them were quite off, but yeah, the last few ones are barely noticeable. but, if they can be fixed, and there is someone willing and capable to, well, why not?

[6649d5dde77b3Olfred]

They are pretty easy fixes.
But apparently you can't like make it really fixed as you have to maintain some floating.

When I create some updated (high res) models I would definately work the glowing pieces into the model, rather than putting them flat on top.

[6649d5dde78bcZylonBane]

Speaking of easy (or not) fixes, how difficult would it be to add another vhot to the held pistol model? Currently it emits shell casings from the player's wrist, because there's no vhot near the ejection port.

[6649d5dde7c01System Shocked]

They are pretty easy fixes.
But apparently you can't like make it really fixed as you have to maintain some floating.

Seems the best scenario for the time being is to get them closer than they presently are and then fix them once and for all down the road when the new updated hi-res models are produced.

[6649d5dde7eb3System Shocked]

I personally don't consider 99% of the floating colored squares to be a problem. You have to be really looking for problems to even notice those.

There are others that I haven't reported because the LED's are barely floating off the surface, so there's not much benefit/point in reworking them. The only ones that I'm bringing to light are those that are more obvious.

[6649d5dde814eOlfred]

Speaking of easy (or not) fixes, how difficult would it be to add another vhot to the held pistol model? Currently it emits shell casings from the player's wrist, because there's no vhot near the ejection port.

Like, super easy.
Should be vhot 1

[6649d5dde82dfZylonBane]

Conduit debris looks good. Pistol now ejects casings from the right spot. Shotgun muzzle flashes work. Huzzah!

[6649d5dde854eSystem Shocked]

...... Pistol now ejects casings from the right spot. Huzzah!

There are times when asking results in receiving !

Way to go Olfred..... U da man ! ! !..... Huzzah, hazzuH.

This being the last important issue needing to be resolved, please release SCP Beta 1.

[6649d5dde8652Olfred]

I was wondering, is there some way that the pistol top is sliding when you shoot?
The tacticool is doing that, right?

[6649d5dde878dvoodoo47]

for guns and glory. anyway, there are still a few things remaining on the checklist, so the release is not going to happen tomorrow.

will make sure that the first post is updated today, and will also include the tacticool models which will also need the vhot to be compatible with SCP.


// yes, the tacticool model has a modified slide that actually works. ADaoB/SCP has a modified orig model that does the same.

[6649d5dde8b11RocketMan]

Wasn't there 1 other gun in the game that had support for moving pieces?  Was it the shotgun?

[6649d5dde8c33ZylonBane]

I don't think so, but I am finding it ridiculous that the grenade launcher dumps little grenades on the ground when you fire it. Didn't I just fire that thing out the barrel?

[6649d5dde8edbvoodoo47]

I don't think so, but I am finding it ridiculous that the grenade launcher dumps little grenades on the ground when you fire it. Didn't I just fire that thing out the barrel?

yeah, about that, we should probably make grenade launcher and SFG/fusion cannon NOT eject casings when shooting - when you think about it, it doesn't make any sense, they should only drop empty cartridges/depleted prisms when being reloaded, or not at all. as we currently do not possess the custom resources, I'd vote for "not at all" for beta1.

//actually the SFG is not ejecting anything.