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Nevermind. I am silly. I don't think it works for the steam EE anymore. :<

Finally, I've managed to play this FM (yeah, a proper vacation since 2018). And I had a blast! It felt like a SS1, but ultra-compacted to 3 levels. But thought it would be longer. Found two rapiers and three scorpions, secret tunnel on S-W and 0-floor on level 1. New audiologs were cool (funny shodan voice though), great music, and a very carefully crafted level design and scripting. Thank you for the awesome FM, I've literally spent two days playing it

Nah, no sarcasm.

My impression of 3RDplayer is one of a genuine guy.

Never mind, I'm an idiot. I was playing the mod when it was really late. The healing suite path is meant to be a shortcut and I found out where the card for the maintenance tunnels is.

Wow, you are the first human being that actually took the shortcut! NOBODY! And I repeat nobody that played it for the first time ever found out about it!

Thank you so much for playing my mod! You are awesome! 

So I finished the mod, but I didn't get to see half of the engineering level, I couldn't find a way into the maintenance tunnels at all, and never got to go into cyber space on that level either due to the security level. I thought going through the hidden entrance in the healing suite was the way to progress and unlock all of that back on the engineering level, but it turned out to be the end with the SHODAN fight. 
While I enjoyed the mod, I'm a little confused, what's the point of the maintenance tunnels if the path is just to get the healing suite key and go through the hidden elevator path to SHODAN? 
Also how does one even get into the maintenance tunnels in the first place? I'd love to replay it and explore that area soon.

Audiologpage is now up.
https://www.systemshock.org/shocklogs/ss1/rewired/index.html

That is how we usually go about it, yes. And I'm sure 3rdplayer understands the advantages. But if he thinks the issue is too minor to break backwards compatibility, that is his prerogative to decide. Let's not get too pushy about this.

this is expected behavior (SCP, TFix etc), and would be quite odd to take old saves into consideration. fixed stuff > compatibility with old stuff, always.

Agree 

On the other hand, that ramp makes some kind of a safe zone for get some rest !

Just finished the Mod, I think...

But on a bug, I will try later once more to confirm : Not any SHODAN to kill !  Just two mobs, loss of nearly control, screen starting to fade on Shodan's face, even if I exit the Cyberspace LOL...
Anyway, not so a big deal, hoping it is some kind of the same ending in the original game...

Thanks for the feedback.

If you would've read the install_instructions.txt that comes with rewired. it Says:

//KNOWN BUGS
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It might happen that the SHODAN critter sprite becomes invisible but she will still sit on her throne, so keep shooting if that happens.

Difficulty is OK, areas are huge, even too much some times, the maze aspect is cool ! Even in Cyperspace, really, really good job. And thanks to the maze aspect, I presume there are some "replaying" possibilities...

^ There is two ways to level 3. One of them lets you skip all cyberspace terminals except for the final one. And yes, when you get kicked out or killed by SHODANs guards and land outside in the realworld. She will still pixelate your screen and kill you. That's intentional.

Oh, and i found a glitch/bug, I think : in the Throne room, the "ramp" to the windows just facing the long ramp to the cyber port, between the entrance and the Cortex Reaver, is radiations/poisonning free... Maybe it's on purpose, maybe not  ...

^ That is correct. Updating the mod to fix such a small issue is a problem. Because doing so would make your old savegames incompatible. So it will stay in the mod. I'm sorry.

Thanks you so much again for your feedback! And who knows, maybe one day someone will make a french translation of my mod. The files to do so are here.

yeah, not too happy about that particular change, never was a fan of games spreading their files all over the hard drive, and it definitely is going to make mod/FM install more annoying.

I updated the topic with version 1.30.
There was already a hotfix that removed the custom reactor soundtrack due to problems with the sourceport fixing the original reactor track. This caused error messages to popup the player would require to click on "Close" everyime a robot shot on level R. This track will be put back in once this problem is resolved.

Amd assuming you could feed it enough pure unaltered files of Terri talking, err, normally as SHODAN without the distortion effects layered on yet.

Sorry to be the mandatory idiot who makes a stupid point (every good thread has one  ), but I've heard that there is software that can learn to 'copy' a person's voice, so that you run a few pre-recorded files of speech through the program (or just get the person to speak into the PC's microphone whilst the program is monitoring the microphone), and then the program can 'speak' in a good approximation of the person's voice.

If these programs did work properly, then it would be great, not only for mod-makers who want to make mods with in-game speech that matches up with the speech by characters in the original games, but it could help too if the original actors/actresses are available for hire but their voices or performances don't match their earlier work.

But since I've not (as far as I can remember) seen these sort of programs mentioned in regard to modding, am I to take it that the results of these programs aren't (yet) good enough for this purpose? A pity, if that's the case.

any interesting source port related fixes?

Here is all logs so far

Lansing's recording equipment seems to be introducing some bad form of crackling noises, apart from that, not bad so far. but yeah, the Shodan stuff.. as mentioned, my brain just goes does not compute if it's not Terri. maybe some more tweaking that would get the voice lower down could help.

yeah, the total SS2 FM count is barely making it out of the single digit area - as mentioned elsewhere, SS2 mechanics are too complex, and assets are not generic enough to pump out new missions easily without compromising quality (a problem Thief doesn't have).

anyway, I think I have seen voiced logs/emails for ReWired mentioned somewhere (would be great, as no System Shock FM should be without voiced mails/logs) - how are you tackling the Shodan voiceovers? I did manage to achieve decent results just by using free online voice generators when creating audio for the Minstrel AI (Ariadne), but getting such a voice to sound even remotely Shodanesque would require some serious sound editing skills.

that's pretty much why my top two recommendations to anyone thinking about doing a SS2 FM are "do voiced logs/mails", and "no Shodan" - RttUNN would be a good example. almost no cringe in the audio area, especially with the latest patch.

*quickly tests stuff* it can actually be anything, so it seems like you basically tell the engine to load a resource (RestabSetBase), specify the res type (mission, alog, we don't know the rest), and a filename with its location (XYZ/xyz.res).

so as long as we know the load codes for all the res types, it will be possible to load any resource via the AS file.

I guess we have to wait until the sourceport is out fully, then we can ask for specifics. Didn't axemelon said he wants to have angelscript removed? hmm. I tried to setup my .as file for rewired as he instructed in discord. but he did a typo and it resulted into an error. haha. but now I could check that loading citalog really works, no original audio anymore for the logs.

For the other lines, we have to wait how I mentioned initially.

seems like the latest SP beta update has resolved the rainbowy texture issue, so as soon as we'll know how to tell the AS header file how to load multiple res files, the FM should be SP beta ready after a small repack.

There is still a problem with screens that point to surveilance sources. when leaving some of them, the game crashes
Also some alternating picture sources don't work properly yet. Otherwise I wouldve repacked it already.
Axemeleon just posted his updated .as file for launching additional resources.

I'm hopeful you all will figure out a good way for 3RDplayer to distribute his next fanmission  

Why me? Why not someone else? I am done. Leave me be with sshock! I have to go back to Thief. Still got until November before the Thief 20th anniversary mapping contest on ttlg is over! LOL Just kidding... I already have an idea for a sequel. But it would require some additional changes to HUD, replacing textures maybe?, That I didnt do in ReWired. Because the sequel be a more action driven corridor shooter ala doom starring an UNN soldier that cannot be manipulated and bought. At least that's the raw idea I have. Nothing concrete. Oh and outdoor areas

I thought there was only red, blue, and green transparent force doors/plats.

Oh and access granted but door still locked.  What?  LGS are wizards and I think it's cool you exploited this feature that probably never existed in the original game.

I didn't even know there werent white/grey forcedoors and bridges in the original game until you told me. I guess LGS just never inserted some?
The original game doesnt use both locked parameter and access level paremeter on doors. either, or, not both.
But they use locked parameter on metal gratings, because critters try to open a metal grating that cant be opened and cause "door-open-sound-loop-chaos" how I call it.

heh, yes, the engine has quite some features and untapped potential. Even the source release uncovered a few things that I couldn't reverse engineer, as the original game didn't use it at all. I could spoil you, yet the whoa! effect would be cooler if a modder would exploit that

My level was entierly made with shocked, the old version, its not as bad as you think it is. It's amazing in its own right until hackED is fully blossomed. So don't downtalk on your beautiful shockED Also don't have secrets for me. I wanna try! :p

Did you guys find the hidden charge station on medical?  I like all the niches and secret areas.  Also, what?!? I had no idea shock was capable of nearly transparent windows like you have in the neurosurge office with the keypad!  I thought there was only red, blue, and green transparent force doors/plats.

There were a few other cool features I didn't realize you could do...oh right the custom text for doors and switches when you use them.  Also, the triple layer lift 

Oh and access granted but door still locked.  What?  LGS are wizards and I think it's cool you exploited this feature that probably never existed in the original game.

I'm guessing that the number of people who would be willing to try all this weird retro stuff but are put off by all the install shenanigans isn't as negligible as one might think.

So they'd put up with SS1's "weird" interface and controls but couldn't be arsed with two shortcuts? I don't buy it.

I still like installing mods by hand and don't trust automatic installers much.  Come to think of it, SS2 Tool is the only mod installer that has worked really well for me so I'm hopeful you all will figure out a good way for 3RDplayer to distribute his next fanmission  


Psst!!!  Did you guys find the light saber?  I did!

I'm guessing that the number of people who would be willing to try all this weird retro stuff but are put off by all the install shenanigans isn't as negligible as one might think.

remember, an average Joe the (steam) Gamer usually doesn't even know where his game files are, so no wonder having to backup/replace/swap them around feels like a brain surgery.

that's why I'm saying that we need to get it working with the source port in a way that would only require extracting an archive, or lose 90% of the younger audience.

Well, I am very displeased about this. I just used the tools that were given to me by dertseha. And you guys worked countless years together on this. So I send the articles in question a mail. Nicely asking to change that bit of the article. Because I feel like its robbing the community and dertseha of their achivements if it doesnt get mentioned. The only news website that did not wrote an article yet is kotaku. And believe it or not, they send me a e-mail asking me if I would answers some questions BEFORE posting some halftruth nonsense on their website. So I take the opportunity to give credit where credit is due.