I remember trying this out a few years back, and while unfinished what's there is cool and neat that it exists even if it never got finished

I suppose someone could continue work on it idk, tho even if that never happens it is still a cool thing to check out

This is excellent, most levels I see are just waiting for monster placement to be complete. It would be the easiest thing, to just transplant SS2 story and gameplay here. I'll try something.

Thank you so much for the pictures, Valet2 - it's great to see such amazing work. Cyberspace in particular was pretty trippy!

you will need to run it through Shocked if you want to be able to reach all levels and areas.

There's also a file fm.cfg where you can change the .mis level to run first.

Also uploaded the archive to my never-dying server: ftp://ftp.valet2.com/SS2-Citadel_Conversion_Project/

They are already remaking the first system shock, although I suppose it would be interesting to see system shock 1 in the system shock 2 engine and vice versa

there is no point in anything, really - you just ride along and try to do things that are interesting, killing time until it returns the favor.

Yep, though I think I set it up so they could be easily converted out if necessary. I'd make no bones about the signage being of high quality, it was done quickly and done batchwise rather than done well. And I do like to mess around rather, hence some of the animated screens on Flight and the like.

Time limitations was the main problem and no one (certainly not me) really wanted to run the project as an actual project. Plus I quit TTLG very abruptly and unexpectedly but not in a public manner. To illustrate the amount of time I'd reckon that it took about four hours time to do each room on the 'completed' levels, and many of the levels are massive, and I'd have averaged about 1 hour a day actual editing. Plus there was no New Dark at the time, its additions would have helped immeasurably with things like having proper game mode backups. I actually fixed a bunch of stuff that was very time consuming- hours of work- in old dark in literally five minutes.

I'd guess the usual - too much stuff to do, too little workforce to tackle it.

Better late than never... Really, I tinker far too much.

Temporary file in case there's any problems, I will upload a final version some time with an actual readme and any needed fixes but I could take forever if I let myself. It's set up to run through either ShockEd or the main exec, but it isn't balanced and there will be places you can get stuck so overall running through ShockEd is advised at this stage. Levels from reactor to flight are linked via elevators, no_endgame will need to be turned off in ShockEd to transition though. There shouldn't be many missing objects etc so let me know if anything is missing as it may have been left out by mistake.

I can host it on my server forever.

Here are TSP maps: ftp://ftp.valet2.com/SS2-The_Shock_Project

sendspace for temp, google drive forever.

bump?

we are (mostly) out of the 56k era, so I wouldn't worry about the filesize too much.

auto bump with two-week timeout initiated.

bopp.

I could probably put together an archive since I have the most up to date build. Can't do it immediately though, so I may need poking if I forget.

I still remember their hard work during 2002-2004... and still wanna play these unfinished levels, because they look just awesome! If they could upload all the missions like they did with TSP (The Shock Project)... JediK, are you there?

I don't know from nothing. No one ever saw me work.

I think this website is partially responsible (in the best possible way) for the demise of the System Shock forums on TTLG.  This is simply the better place to discuss the System Shock series due in no small part to the work Kolya puts in.  However, there's no plan to delete the Shock forum there and there are fans who go to TTLG for other reasons.

I can't imagine there's be much downside to archiving rather than deleting unless the TTLG server is really creaky.

Yes - this is the plan, archive rather than delete.  It would go into the archive section and could be moved back into the main forum area at a later date if it were to be actively worked on again.  As a personal opinion I think that it would be better hosted here, but that would of course depend on those working on the project.

Well they hired some moderators for Commchat and they are cleaning up the forumtable and also did some under the hood optimisations (thanks to Al_B who's helping us as well). I think they're on a good way.

I don't really see going into details as being advantageous- or fair- and such things generally end up just sounding petulant. Take "given the circumstances" (which probably sounds a bit more loaded than intended) to mean a nice neutral "irreconcilable differences that are unlikely to be resolved", and I genuinely wish the new mods over at TTLG all the best.

I can't imagine there's be much downside to archiving rather than deleting unless the TTLG server is really creaky.

Personally though I have little opinion either way. I left TTLG and given the circumstances there's no realistic prospect I'll return, therefore it isn't really my business any more.

I do.  If there are any resources (files) or indispensible explanations/tutorials in there, they should be preserved.  Let that be a stepping stone for FM creators... I believe certain people jumped through some technical hoops to reproduce ss1 properly. 

As many of you know, TTLG currently has a forum dedicated to the Citadel Conversion Project - bringing the original game into SS2.  This appears to have been stalled for some time, and there are thoughts that it might be better to archive (not delete) it until there's further activity.

I know that some here have been involved in this in the past, so if there are strong feelings either way then it might be worth popping over to TTLG or leaving your comments here.


//attaching the last WIP build - note that this is not playable, and you will need to run it through Shocked if you want to be able to reach all levels and areas.

//screenshot gallery at Valet2's place: http://vk.com/album-756159_230040007