Crash with Italian translation

[664aad0dc22d1Stefka]

Hello!
This is my problem: SS2 crashes when I try to equip with shotgun or grenade-laucher.
Using mouse-wheel, the only arms appearing are wrench, pistol and Psy-Amp.
If I use inventory and  try to drag and droop them in my arm, the game crashes

I have SS2 (my original 1999 cd <3<3) + SS2tools 5.0 + mods exactly shown in "Newbie modding guide" topic + SS2-UARMMv1.14

Thanks for helps

[664aad0dc26ecMarvin]

ADaoB and UARMM are not compatible. Delete the content of both mod folders and install the mods again.

[664aad0dc28a7Kolya]

The reason is that both mods contain a gamesys. (More info on mod compatibility)
This type of mods is tagged with "gamesys" so you can distinguish them easily.

[664aad0dc299eStefka]

Thank you!
Now I can proceed with my second run in 15 years

[664aad0dc2ab9Stefka]

So, I reinstall and restarted to play without ADaoB but with UARMM (I can choose one gamesys mod, I guess).
Sadly I have the same problem.
Do I have to play without any gamesys mod and only with SS2tools 5.0 + texture mods only?

Thanks

[664aad0dc2c29voodoo47]

maybe you could share your shock2.log, crash.dmp and one save right before the crash (all are in your ss2 folder)? this might be some hardware/software issue.

[664aad0dc2d0aStefka]

I'd like to share them, but I don't know how...

[664aad0dc2df4Stefka]

I've just reinstalled SS2 adding only SS2toolsv.5.0... and it works fine! No more crash selecting shotgun....
But I would like to use mods too... any suggestions?

[664aad0dc2eeaMarvin]

Zip up the files mentioned by voodoo with an archive manager (WinRAR, 7zip, ...) and upload to a file hosting service like File Upload.

Concerniing your other posts: Omit all gamesys mods and try.

[664aad0dc309cStefka]

Hello again!
I think I've found a bug

I could not use shotgun because I didn't have level 3 ability to use it, BUT instead of appearing the warning message... the game chrashes.
Now with level 3 ability I can use shotgun even using all the mods, shotgun "appears" in my right arm, and the game doesn't crash anymore.
I guess before it crashed because there is something wrong with the "message warning system", maybe a string desappeared, SS2.exe cannot find it, so it crashes.

[664aad0dc3198Marvin]

Might be. Are you using a mod that affects strings? If so, please upload your string directory from the respective mod directory (DataPermMods or DataTempMods).

[664aad0dc3278voodoo47]

yeah, the last time we had weird crashes, it turned out that the guy was using some italian translation with botched up strings.

[664aad0dc33c2Stefka]

Yes, it is!
I'm using the italian translation.
Here is string.rar http://www.2shared.com/file/IEuzFOxh/strings.html

voodoo47, do you remeber if playing with italian translation there are other weird bugs?
Does it worths?

Thanks!

[664aad0dc34c1Kolya]

Is this the translation from this post?

[664aad0dc360aStefka]

Yes, Kolya.

By the way I remember to have played SS2 with italian translation in 2002 (more or less) without problems (and without mods)
I used this one http://multiplayer.it/download/system-shock-2-per-pc/system-shock-2-inglese-italiano/

Just in case, here is a rar with shock.log and crash.dmp http://www.2shared.com/file/hdbfONI5/SHOCK.html

Thanks

[664aad0dc3751voodoo47]

here's your fix (the issue would affect all weapons and items you are not able to equip/use). next time I'm in Italy, you're buying spaghetti carbonara.

[664aad0dc389dStefka]

Thanks voodoo!
I'm living in Colombia now... what about a coffe?

Anyway, if I play SS2 with only SS2tools v5.0 and italian translation I'm not having crashes...

[664aad0dc3994voodoo47]

coffee it is.

it has also crashed with ADaoB (which I'm running right now). one way or another, with the fixed file, it does not crash anymore.

[664aad0dc3a79Kolya]

Comparing the English and Italian misc.str files it looks like the translator missed several strings.

[664aad0dc3b6dvoodoo47]

no kidding. any sane person attempting a SS2 translation would probably want to put a bullet to his head halfway through (as I've learned, fixing the Czech translation). not actually translating everything is an expectable result.

[664aad0dc3c66Kolya]

They left out single strings, specifically those relating to multiplayer. If I should venture a guess, I'd say they translated an unpatched game.

[664aad0dc3d33voodoo47]

quite possible.

[664aad0dc3e9cKolya]

Here's the completed Italian misc.str. Inserted English lines at:

14: EarlySave:"Save disabled during multiplayer training."
33: GiveawayString:"%s given to %s."
34: GivefailString:"%s too large for %s's inventory; dropped."
41: HilightString:"%s pointed out by %s."
68: ReceiveString:"%s received from %s."

Stefka, can you translate the parts between apostrophes to Italian?

Google translation suggestions:
14: Salvataggio disabilitato durante l'allenamento multigiocatore.
33: %s dato a %s
34: %s è troppo grande per l'inventario di %s; caduto.
41: %s sottolineato da %s
68: %s ha ricevuto da %s

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[664aad0dc3fc9Kolya]

Oh well, I've used the Google translations now, fixed the crashing as per Voodoo's instructions and inserted the fixed misc.str into the italian translation download.