05. June 2016, 22:50:36

#15

XKILLJOY98Quote

It is important to know that (in case it hasn't already been brought up) we have already invented a quantum computer, thus computers no longer strictly run off of binary (Also, both Microsoft and Google both have AI research teams, and even brilliant scientists such as steven hawkings say that it is inevitable).

Also, if an AI is smart enough it can experience the world and learn, also never say never, don't say it won't happen. Perhaps brain uploading can help us "create" a digital mind.

11. June 2016, 07:56:40

#16

📱 KolyaQuote

Here's an interesting (German) article about the philosopher Nick Bostrom who wrote a book warning about the AI apocalypse that was then recommended by Bill Gates, Elon Musk etc.
http://www.zeit.de/2016/21/nick-bostrom-oxford-philosoph-kuenstliche-intelligenz

He has no idea how it would happen. Instead his premise is: If it happened, how would it go?
His way to assert the likeliness of machines reaching human like intelligence is to poll experts when they expect it to happen.
Of course we already know that the answer will invariably be a definitive "soon", as it has been for half a century.

13. June 2016, 10:34:43

#17

foxQuote

Did you read his book? Full version of the Andrew Ng's quote mentioned in the Zeit-article:

I think that hundreds of years from now if people invent
    a technology that we haven’t heard of yet, maybe a
    computer could turn evil. But the future is so
    uncertain. I don’t know what’s going to happen five
    years from now. The reason I say that I don’t worry
    about AI turning evil is the same reason I don’t worry
    about overpopulation on Mars. Hundreds of years from now
    I hope we’ve colonized Mars. But we’ve never set foot on
    the planet so how can we productively worry about this
    problem now?

I'm with Nick Bostrom for sure. We are already trying to develop it so now is the time to think about the consequences.

Here's a bit more about Ng's point of view (which I don't post to prove a point, just because he too has interesting things to say).
http://www.wired.com/brandlab/2015/05/andrew-ng-deep-learning-mandate-humans-not-just-machines/

14. June 2016, 06:51:43

#18

📱 KolyaQuote

No, I haven't read Bostrom's book. I'm with Ng who actually works in AI development whereas Bostrom is a philosopher. Not because philosophy had nothing interesting to say about the subject, but because there's the usual misunderstanding when software developers speak of defined terms like "artificial intelligence" then it gets mangled by marketing and then a philosoper hears it. Or your average Joe.

Ng is not talking about human level intelligence, much less sentience, but Bostrom is.

It's like Ng says: You might currently believe that self driving cars were just around the corner, but in reality "we’re firmly on our way to being safer than a drunk driver."

26. June 2016, 14:50:35

#19

foxQuote

Quote by Kolya:

It's like Ng says: You might currently believe that self driving cars were just around the corner, but in reality "we’re firmly on our way to being safer than a drunk driver."

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