SS2 Community Patch (SCP) Beta 5

[66472533099a1JDoran]

Wow! This is fantastic news, thanks so much to everyone involved (both with SCP and the compatible mods). I'm looking forwards to personally finding the differences/improvements over SCP beta 4 (which was already brilliant, of course).

[664725330a0baMarvin]

So there's a line in the Beta 5 readme:This could probably do with some explanation.[...]

Doesn't that mean that all QA and balancing was done with this bug in mind?
If I understand correctly, the ecology always spawns a timer in its constructor regardless of the population limit, and the constructor is always called on loading a level. While this hurts save scummers most, it also guarantees starting a spawn timer when traversing levels. So the population would always quickly increase when traversing levels, which is most important during backtracking.

I think that's a rather natural way of doing respawning without going overboard. Fixing the bug might automatically neuter the respawning to such a degree that it becomes meaningless, which is definitely not wanted, at least not on higher difficulties. Have you thought of a way to fix the bug while keeping the difficulty intact - in a way that makes sense?

[664725330a256ZylonBane]

You might want to re-read the italicized part of my explanation.

[664725330a3ccvoodoo47]

to answer the question - yes.

[664725330a548NeilHoward17]

Just finished a SCP 5 playthrough, was brilliant, a standard mods should be measured against, you deserve all the praise.

[664725330a632voodoo47]

b5 is 99% ZB.

[664725330a705ZylonBane]

Mostly the bones and fingernails.

[664725330a911ZylonBane]

Fun fact: The Hydro deck air recirculators were supposed to have their own unique ambient sound. There's a schema for it and everything:

schema air_recirc_lp
archetype AMB_HYDRO
volume -500
mono_loop 0 0
recirclp

But the audio file for it, recirclp.wav, is missing from the CRFs.

[664725330abe8sarge945]

When inserting the toxin a, we can hear a sound of it sucking air in before screams are heard,

I'm assuming here (and it's a big assumption) that there was originally that sound without the screams on repeat. So it would suck in air constantly and when you add the toxin A it does it's usual routine and the many don't like it.

Based on that wild speculation, it would also make sense for them to remove it at the last second because it was probably quite annoying.

I have absolutely nothing to base any of this on, though.

[664725330acf8ZylonBane]

Unlikely that they would have outright deleted the sound, since SND.CRF is full of unused sounds. Also unlikely that the sound was annoying, because SS2's sound design is awesome.

[664725330b0ectiphares4]

I dont want to spam or get on the nerves, but i want to throw 2 cents in   :)

I'm assuming here (and it's a big assumption) that there was originally that sound without the screams on repeat. So it would suck in air constantly

I think this is right assumption

So it would be possible to reconstruct that missing soundfile by extracting that hissing air sound minus the screams   :)

It would make so much sense, since those enviromental-air-regulator-units seem to be operational before inserting vials - also gameplay-wise it would be easier for players to spot them when getting in vicinity + more atmosphere in true sense of word   :3

It would be gameplay enrichment by making use of ss2's wonderful audio aspects for not only spotting enemies.



i've noticed you can blow up the toilets now..   oO'                             💕♥

[664725330b254JDoran]

SCP is definitely one of the best fan-made mods ever made, and really does turn this already classic and unique but sometimes rough game into a much more polished and enjoyable experience. Thanks, ZB, and everyone else involved.

Have any of SS2's developers ever commented on SCP? Have they ever discussed the things that they intended to include in the game but where instead forced to abandon due to lack of time or system resources? Did they ever say what they wish they had done differently? For such a complicated game, I would expect that there were some interesting ideas for the game that had to be abandoned or significantly changed to get the game finished and out the door.

[664725330b3a8Maggot]

Looks like the unpowered armor defense has been reduced to +10 instead of +20, and localized pyrokinesis negates protocol explosion damage again? Didn't see either of these listed in the patch notes but I appreciate the changes.

[664725330b5eaZylonBane]

localized pyrokinesis negates protocol explosion damage again?

Of course not. That would be silly.

[664725330b9d2IJB]

ZylonBane
The Readme mentions several "minimods" that can be enabled, but there is zero information on how to do so. SCP appears as a single entry in DMM and there is no configuration menu. Can someone provide some clarity on this?

[664725330bad7voodoo47]

you download the minimod and load it in the mod manager, business as usual. the only difference is that you have to have SCP already loaded for the minimod to actually work.

[664725330bbb5ZylonBane]

And they're linked to in the first post of the very thread you're responding to.