As long as they are uploaded as uncompressed PCX, TGA or ICO files, they should be fine

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ZylonBane
That's the default with GIMP. I'll re-upload as JPG.

Took some screenshots since they're missing in the OP.

Note that v4 and v5 look pretty similar.
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The .jpg links are broken, it makes it hard to choose

Thanks vurt. I'm just another guy who got sucked back in by the GOG release and the opportunities provided by the NewDark patch.

Since mod managers are obsolete (for the moment anyway), and there are lots of files here that still contain mod.ini and out-of-date instructions, there is plenty of opportunity for confusion.

BTW I finally reached a section where I could see your flora in action and it looks fantastic.

Thanks.

OK then, are there any negative consequences to installing the water and then the environment map?

The environment map file includes
env_map 0.03 3 tex\envmaps\vurt_envmap1
in the bin.mtl.

The water 5.1 mod bin.mtl is the same except for that line. So if one were to install the environment map and then the water mod, overwriting bin.mtl, what would the effect be?

Thanks voodoo! I'm gonna go with v5.

do note the save is not meant for normal gameplay.

Older version of the mod, as you can see on the date of posting, i recommend using any of the versions from this thread instead.

Done a clean install (with the GoG version though), patched with SS2Tool 5, but the water animation of yours is still incredibly slow (using v3). Don't know what I'm doing wrong here.

(I am using newDark.)

Yeah sorry it's more a case of there being no instructions about overwriting other mod files and compatibility. I found a thread elsewhere in the end about your mod compatibility etc. Kolya solves all lol.

My bad - there's nothing wrong with the folder structure!

EDIT: Also, how do we use the environment thingy file you posted on page 2?

Which folder structure issue is that? AFAIK all my mods are packed correctly, e.g "obj" is the root folder in the archive.

Ah great advice, thanks! Vurt really needs to sort out this folder structure issue. And advise about compatibility with SHTUP, as, let's face it, who the hell isn't using SHTUP these days.

.mtl files are material files introduced by NewDark which enable mod authors to include additional effects for textures like glow, reflection, animations and so on.

Yes, the water partially overrides SHTUP data.

I have never unpacked anything into DataPermanentMods so i have no idea if that works, or how it works.

When using the SS2Tool the DataPermanentMods folder is created and written into the resource load path in install.cfg.
The loading hierarchy is then:
1. root
2. DataPermanentMods
3. Data (where SS2Tool moves all original resources)

Placing mods in DataPermanentMods is the same as placing it in root but preferrable, because this folder can be simply emptied or renamed to unload all mods and load others.

You drag/drop the content in the archive into the root of SS2. All my mods are packaged like that. I have never unpacked anything into DataPermanentMods so i have no idea if that works, or how it works.

No idea what's up with that. I always install stuff like normal though and not in DataPermanentMods.

Yeah i guess it could work pretty well for things like water, could also be nice for color matching, if a texture needs tweaking for a fan mission etc.

Yes i remember reading about that, i never did understand why i would want to do that though when i can just adjust the colors on the texures the normal way in Photoshop.

Tinting textures?

Updated first post with a pic + new, less saturated pool water.

Well there's that swimming pool in Rec level (but isn't it cracked?).  That would appear blue if the surrounding environment had neutral colours.

It is pretty much true... don't be troublemaker zb   The transmissivity of all materials is a function of wavelength which gives even pure water a slight blue colour (since it has an affinity for absorbing longer wavelengths) but that depends on the thickness of water in the given sample.  If you fill up your tub in a white bathroom you can see a little blue but it's fairly insignificant.  If you had purple or red walls, that would have a larger effect on the water colour than the inherent colour of the water itself.  The colour of pure water starts to become significant when you have bright illumination and deep water, as there is more of a cumulative effect for the observer.  Shallow 1 foot pools on the ground in a modestly / dimmly lit space station are not likely to give you that.