yes. Alarms use a completely different set of ecologies for spawning.

yes, it should work ok.

Timed spawning is precisely the point, so that it is dynamic and an ever-looming threat.
It doesn't have to be viewed as "gamey", as a) The Many is aware of your approximate location at all times and sending more to end you would be of high concern, and b) who says they're not coming from the vents, from somewhere you didn't properly check, or were on your tail the whole time?

All SS2 needs in this regard is to enhance the illusion of it being real and not a designed system.

-Script some enemy spawns from time to time, often in areas currently being backtracked, complete with unique animations: A dead corpse previously passed gets up from the floor, now is in hybrid form. A hybrid crawls out from under some pipes. A monkey jumps down through a ceiling panel. A little scripting goes a long way, as long as it is not too frequent (and thus defeating the point of a dynamic system).
-Extensively ensure spawn points never have line of sight to the player (not just a simple trace, but a double/triple trace and distance check).
-If a spawn point is in a dead end with only one means to enter, ensure the player isn't anywhere near before a spawn can commence (greater distance check).
-Perhaps adjust dialogue for spawned enemies: e.g make hybrids say "we seek!" "Where are you?", make them *sometimes* behave like the post-combat state where they are looking for you, to provide the illusion that they had been on your tail rather than spawned in none the wiser.
-Perhaps even move some spawn points to bulkheads, with distance and line of sight checks described above they can never spawn when you're close, and it will certainly feel more organic this way (providing the illusion that they sometimes come from other areas).

Even vanilla, most of the time the spawning works perfectly. But it can be better.
It shouldn't be removed even if it damages immersion and believability, as the "gamey-ness" it brings is important, among other things (ensures frequent combat, drain of player's resources, adds tension and horror).

sarge945
If  that could be done that would actually be pretty spiffy. However as far as I know time doens't exist for places you aren't. In fact i have many memories of leaving mid explosion, then loading back in an hour later to that same explosion finishing.

In fairness bathesda's fallout, games made  years later, have the same issue.

always remember, SCP lowest, then Obj_fixes, then SHTUP. the rest doesn't really matter - all other mods are deliberately constructed to not depend on priority as much as possible.

I usually go with the base (SCP+Obj_fixes+SHTUP), then graphics/audio enhancements, then everything else. whatever is the craziest (santa hats) should go on top.


also, as mentioned a trillion times, environmental spawning is very mild, and is an integral part of the game's mechanics, if you have a problem with that, it's all you.

it shows the authorities who try to shame fans of mods like these aren't quite as knowledgable as they pretend to be.

No one tried to shame you and you're not fighting the powarrr here. Sit down on your ass, learn shocked and check the ecologies yourself. We're all volunteers here who do the same.

there are no endless hordes of mutants on hydro2 - as mentioned before, the spawning is very mild unless you set the alarm off.

There is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI2ZDzKvAxo&t=16m26s

And as you can see from Veriax' glee and efficiency, this is not his first trip through the deck, meaning it was pure ecology spawning leading to this thing that supposedly only happens during alarms. Granted, it is the only example this extreme I've seen in the game, but facing three or four enemies at once somewhere happens often enough.

Sorry to necro, but not only does the video validate this mod, it shows the authorities who try to shame fans of mods like these aren't quite as knowledgable as they pretend to be.

So what is the current status of this mod? Done? Tested to game completion?

Alright, you convinced me to skip this mod. I just had the feeling the difficulty was meant for multiplayer mode.

Eh? Multiplayer mode in SS2 only exists because the publisher insisted on it, was tacked on in a post-release patch, and has never worked very well anyway. It is, at heart and by design, a single-player survival horror game.

This mod will help for the quiet time to enjoy the other half of the game. Explore, search for stuff, and breath calmly.

If you can breathe calmly while playing SS2, you're playing it wrong.

I mean, sure, if you're a wuss who can't handle full-strength SS2, I guess it's better than not playing it at all. But then don't go telling people you've played SS2, because you haven't. You've played a weaksauce, watered-down, decaf imitation. SS2 is supposed to wear you down. It is supposed to stress you out. You are supposed to be motivated to run, and hide, and cower in the dark, and learn the few areas that are completely safe. Quiet time in SS2 isn't handed to you, it's earned.

Thanks Voodoo. Got this game on sale last week and I finally got myself to install it. The atmosphere alone creeps me out and I haven't seen an enemy yet. Taking baby steps hehe.. This mod will help for the quiet time to enjoy the other half of the game. Explore, search for stuff, and breath calmly. Thanks Yankee.

Should I put this before or after SCP Beta 1 in the mod manager? Thank you.

Prrrrrrrrrfect!

welcome to our world.

check the ecology, definitely set to spawn randomly, and not after an alarm. just one of those LGS/IG "lol lets do stuff in a nonstandard way, this will definitely NOT ruin someones day 15 years later" things.

Those ecologies use DirectMonsterGen, meaning they are alarm ecologies, at least according to Kolya's tutorial:

The Ecology has to be SwitchLinked to a marker or trap with the TrapSpawn script on it. DirectMonsterGen (for alarm ecologies) and RandMonsterGen (for normal ecologies) are traps set up like this with different default flags. While the Ecology determines the timing, it is the monster generator that determines what is spawned.

v1.02 has been posted. Fingerprint blocks have been updated so the mod will work with either vanilla or SCP.

watch out, rec2 dml has an error, FINGERPRINT is missing. also, no dmls for command and beyond?

Fingerprints added.

You convinced me. I'll update.

I thought about fingerprinting, but that would mean that those who wanted to use it with a fan mission would be unable to. While those who wish to use the fan mission without the mod can merely deactivate the mod.

Revised attachment has been reattached. Thanks again to voodoo47 for pointing me in the right direction (almost). The respawners are generated by randmonstergen while the monsters that spawn in response to an alarm are from directmonstergen.

If you trip an alarm, they will still come.

Not Engineering. Hydroponics.

Faulty memory. Hydroponics deck is unaffected by Zygoptera.

uh...

I like Doom 

and I like SS2 with norespawn too.. yeeey 

It would be an accurate statement to say that SCP makes SS2's graphics more like HL2. And high praise indeed!

Hahaha, okay. You know I love you ZylonBuns even if I criticise the hell out of you sometimes this place wouldn't be the same without you.