SS2 list of broken and lowpoly objects that need fixing

[666715878a7bbOlfred]

I can understand the box part, but why do you want to have the same UV space on all sides of the pipe?. The way it is in the current fixed model you can even apply shadowy parts.

About the basket. Since the original texture for the net was messy I made a new one (based of the old one). Which is inluded.
Then I made a model for the original texture with a lit number (basket_l.bin). It's up to you to devide which one you want to incorporate into SCP.

For the SHTUP model I tweaked around with the net a bit to make it look more seamingless.

Oh yeah, and I modeled a ring for both on par with the broken model.

[666715878ac10ZylonBane]

I can understand the box part, but why do you want to have the same UV space on all sides of the pipe?. The way it is in the current fixed model you can even apply shadowy parts.

I'm not sure what you're asking or what you mean by shadowy parts. I just want it to look like the original does when viewed from a distance, without looking horrible when viewed close up. So, light grey rings running around the length of the pipes. The face I highlighted is one of the few where the modeler textured it correctly, instead of the insane repetition used on the other faces. That's what I meant by "like this".

[666715878ad5aOlfred]

Oh, ok. I opened up the original model and did a comparison between your texture and the original one. And even though your texture is like 90° turned in opposite to the original one, they still turn out to look the same.
As the whole UV map was messed up I decided to turn it into a straight pipe, like you can see it now on the "olfred version".

So how should I make the non SHTUP version now?

[666715878ae64ZylonBane]

Like above. SHTUP version will not be different. The goal is to match the original look.

This model is usually used upside-down, so the "pipes" look like they're dangling. So it makes sense for them to look like they're some kind of flexible corrugated material.

[666715878af51Olfred]

gang.bin and gangf.bin.
shtup hose1.* texture needs to be rotated to resemble vanilla one.

[666715878b384ZylonBane]

About the basket. Since the original texture for the net was messy I made a new one (based of the old one). Which is inluded.
Then I made a model for the original texture with a lit number (basket_l.bin). It's up to you to devide which one you want to incorporate into SCP.

New hoop looks great. There's a problem with the net though. Dark's renderer really hates textures that are stretched into non-square shapes-- it causes them to warp and snap when any vertex of their polygon crosses a screen edge. So when you look at and away from the basketball net, it jumps around quite a bit. Really the only solution is to keep the texels square, and compensate for it in the texture.

gang.bin and gangf.bin.

Looking good. Only thing that needs to be fixed on both models is that only one of the boxes is textured correctly around its perimeter. On the other box, two sides are blank and on the other two sides there's a stripe running in the wrong direction.

[666715878ba0eOlfred]

Really the only solution is to keep the texels square, and compensate for it in the texture.

I don't quite understand you, are you saying that the surface ingame should match the surface in the UV map?

Looking good. Only thing that needs to be fixed on both models is that only one of the boxes is textured correctly around its perimeter. On the other box, two sides are blank and on the other two sides there's a stripe running in the wrong direction.

So you want to have the lower boxes textures arranged like the upper boxes one?
I just kept it true to the original.

[666715878bd9eZylonBane]

I don't quite understand you, are you saying that the surface ingame should match the surface in the UV map?

I'm saying:

So for something like a basketball net (or any kind of conic section), if you want perfect texturing, it's pretty much unavoidable to have some wasted space in the texture map, because you can't just stretch it to fit. Dark hates warped textures.

So you want to have the lower boxes textures arranged like the upper boxes one?
I just kept it true to the original.

Well, yeah. I think we're all agreed that the original texturing sucked. 

[666715878bf27Olfred]

So what I said, ok.

Changed it so the surface isn't warped on the UV map anymore, or at least, as little as I could do.
Also modified the texture for SHTUP to match the UV layout. Strangely the texture looks all messed up in ShockEd, but ingame it looks fine. Maybe ZylonBane knows what's up.

As for the gang* models. Two sides have a mirrored texture so the vanilla texture looks seamingless.
If you want a non mirrored for SHTUP just tell me and I will make them.

[666715878c0f1ZylonBane]

Thanks, I'll take a look at these after work.

Another model I just noticed could use a tweak is the Sandman Audio sign on earth. If you look closely at it, you'll see that the edges of the sign are textured the same as the front and back faces. I'm not sure what to do about it though. Ideally, it would look like the blue stripes were wrapping around the sides, but there isn't any clean vertical strip of that pattern present in the texture. I suppose I could provide you with a custom texture to be used for the sides and top/bottom.

[666715878c1e0Olfred]

Maybe this is good enough.

[666715878c45eZylonBane]

Maybe this is good enough.

It is! 

All four models look great. I'm marking them as done in the first post.

[666715878c557Olfred]

Good.

Did you found out what was wrong with the basm texture?

[666715878c660ZylonBane]

I'm not aware that anything is wrong with it, other than its texture probably should have been created using something like LithUnwrap. "Fortunately", it's so low-res you can barely notice the breaks in the net.

[666715878c76eOlfred]

No I was talking about the SHTUP one I edited to match the new UV mapping. Ingame it looks normal, but  in ShockEd it looks messed up.

The low res (kind of vanilla) one is so low res that it's not really editable to match.

[666715878c865ZylonBane]

Ah, I hadn't given much thought to the SHTUP texture. No idea why it would look different in ShockEd. That's something I'll have to get back to later.

[666715878caf5System Shocked]

Here's a pic of the two gang models and your most current version. Requested modifications indicated.

Just wanted to point out that the left-most wire hub block connects to the wall over top of a light fixture, which looks weird.

[666715878cbe9ZylonBane]

I'll be sure to correct the throwaway scene that I made just for that screenshot right away.

[666715878ccc2Olfred]

 

[666715878cdadZylonBane]

I just noticed that on the updated nanocan.bin (nanite tank) the computer screen on the front isn't self-lit anymore.

[666715878ce8bOlfred]

 

[666715878d023voodoo47]

checked the latest batch of models, all are a go as far as I can see. will pack them up and upload as v09, unless ZB has something to add..?

[666715878d16cZylonBane]

I was just thinking that SHTUP's large conference table model would be a nice addition. Years ago someone fixed that so the green lights aren't in the wrong position anymore.

...I really need to make a spreadsheet to keep track of the overlap between SHTUP and the fixed model pack. 

[666715878d273voodoo47]

so it would seem. never a free lunch, remember?