What sort of engineering would be required to get this to run on EE? IIRC, SECMOD and SCP are incompatible, and EE has it by default, so that's an immediate obstacle.

voodoo47Yep. When activated in blue mod manager, loads to blank screen.
Without, loads new game as expected.

So I've managed to get SS2 running on an Android system, but this mod causes a blank screen when the game is started. What graphical options should I change to troubleshoot?

Hmm when you hear 'hardcoded' too many times, it means its time for OpenSS2.

Okay, let us know when you're done!

One feature that would be simpler AND maybe useful, would be if you could use a certain item on a hacked turret to "replace" it with a version of the appropriate type.

This could probably be done with Squirrel, and wouldn't have issues with things like AI pathing.

But honestly, I don't really play Secmod and wouldn't really know much about what's best for the mod gameplay-wise.

This isn't some organisational problem or mismanagement preventing progress. The Dark Engine is pretty well understood at this point. Some things are hardcoded, some things are not, and there's nothing preventing making any mod to do anything, unless it's hardcoded. A "creatable" turret might actually be possible in some circumstances, but would be a lot of work and may not work and would likely have problems (like enemies trying to path through it). But full-on turret customisation is absolutely impossible. It doesn't matter how much you BELIEVE it's possible, the engine is just the way it is.

I think with engineering its often hard to tell what's what because most of it is negotiated around stable jobs, reasonable pay for possibly unreasonable jobs (difficult jobs come and go but your salary needs to stay constant) and hard projects are not considered unless their framed as being easy to finish.

you can always have hope

who know what kind of stuff a smart person can come up with to fix the game engine, don't fall into old dogma . now there is AI coding tools and all sorts of aids for modders

and a wrench or saber turret that engages enemies with melee. or pool cue

the other puzzle that can break is on the ricken backer, also involving the wire puzzle. It happened in the same run through that the local feedback puzzle broke and I had to go back a deck in saves.

on the rickenbacker
when you need to raise the med bed. fortunately you can jump on a large armor to grapple to the next level. its where diego died

but if you just can't solve the puzzle, chances are you are missing a detail. it remind me of polynomial equation with 2 solutions, there seems to be a wrong one that is very close. it will make a noise when you finish the puzzle, but there is a chance after doing it, the trigger will bug. but I only had that on the 3rd playthrough.

Guys I'm really sorry if this has been answered but I scoured the thread and haven't found anything.

The "Local Feedback Loop" issue on Ops-- am I doing something wrong?  I can't quite get the meter on the wire puzzle all the way to the top, and I have no idea what else to do.  I'm looking around for clues and whatnot, I smashed three computer consoles.  Is there something I'm supposed to be doing that I'm not getting? 

also, prox grenades can be used for tram puzzle. rando puzzles could make heavy weapons more appealing because you could lay prox mine traps for the harder ones.

I got another fun idea, how about more template grenades, that use organs, to make exotic grenades, with tinker trait?

some ideas for organ things:
-a homing grenade kinda like a shot from the worm cannon
-a grenade that works like psi mind control, perhaps brezerk instead of freindly, so they attack whomever is nearby for a short duration. side effects seem fun so like a 5% chance you get a 200% speed enraged rumbler, or even if enemies get psi powers from it
-some kinda gas grenade.. to make it different how about it decreases damage taken by enemy but does no damage
-swarm grenade
-these grenades can do some side effects too like spawn some angry worms from corpse too (% chance)

the transfer rate does not need to be 1:1 to balance this idea

other tinkers:
-be able to modify bullets using chemicals so you can turn them into the type you want at a loss, i.e. standard to AP with some tough element
-bond portable battery to template to make some kinda large AOE stun grenade (super expensive IMO, batteries are rare, and quite useful)
-some kind of homing bullets like that movie Runaway. maybe a repair tool could do this mod to make a small quantity?
-spider grenade. mix hand grenade (or scrambler) with some item to make it into a spider grenade that has IFF and runs up to enemies. IMO this grenade is so damn useless. not enough ambushes in the game either to make it worth while. Should do more damage too

It would be cool to get tinker from first OS upgrade station. I find that some other choices are SO appealing that its hard to make that choice.


I also want more bosses and ambushes! I loved the psi rumbler in recreation.

some random ideas
1) robot showdown in cafeteria on dec 4. you get attacked by 1 wimpy bot. how about getting attacked by a small army, or some kinda enhanced bot, perhaps with high speed. this area is so under used. thought it would be epic but its not.
2)  in deck five, after you clear the apartments a buncha hybrids break the glass and jump down from the upper hallway from previously locked apartment.
3) make the korenchkin psi reaver meaner. it could move faster, or spawn in some enemies with a psi power

I explained how the flamer works right here: https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=7153.msg141166#msg141166
But I'm not totally opposed to giving it a buff, so long as it keeps the same identity, which is a more tactical weapon than a point and click and uberkill weapon.

for fusion cannon, its weak, but if you don't go standard, and recycle all the ammo, you can buy alot of radium prisms. works with energy

and a way to hotkey more spells from the psi amp so you can play psi better. or some soft casting menu you can bring up with a mouse key

if they had some contact det with the tinker trait and a bit better physics it would be pretty rad. you would still need to be pretty close so its not the ideal substitute. make it scale with exotic skill >_>

Voodoo saves the day again. Thank you!

This is a tiny issue I've had with Secmod for some years, but... what is the easiest way I might replace the door button/switch textures with the vanilla one?

sarge945I am fairly sure I have done that; I am a pretty thorough explorer and so probably would've walked over that area you posted, *and* have been using Secmod 3 since release and I am fairly sure I would've noticed the issue you describe. By no means a scientific analysis but I think the source is more likely to lie with you, also given the lack of reports of the issue.

For what it's worth, Sarge, I've not encountered that grenade launcher issue a single time. I am sure that isn't helpful to you in any capacity but just figured I'd help you narrow things down.

RE: wire puzzles -- not a fan. Would love an addon to remove them/replace them with something else. What that might be, I don't know, but there it is. No offense to TF, of course.

EDIT: actually would just rather the wire puzzles be replaced by hackable pads.

Also like voodoo mentioned, some levels might have been saved after editing, unfortunate but it is what it is, I think it's the case with Rick1 as I remember working to fix that one https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=12399.msg150328#msg150328

It mainly happens on medsci1 and rick1, where the origin points are inside the map.

For every other map, they usually have air rooms like they are supposed to.

There's also an audible sound when using the recharger, because it creates an invisible object.

Honestly though, I think this particular issue can be resolved by making the grenade launcher HasRefs be false when it's not being actively needed.

Okay, so it seems my Randomiser issue is not actually a Randomiser issue, it's a Secmod issue.

Running Secmod only (no other mods), is anyone else able to reproduce this issue?

This is the grenade launcher attached to the Shotgun hybrid (613) from the intro chase scene in medsci1.

To make this appear, simply walk along the small metal path in the recharger room, which is the origin point of the map (0,0,0). You need to walk into it to make it appear.

I have also seen a "droid spark" (-1500) appear there occasionally.

A similar issue exists in rick1 in the starting room.

This doesn't affect gameplay but is definitely weird. It should probably be fixed.

@voodoo47, @ThiefsieFool any idea how to deal with this? Maybe my install is just borked? This is normal Secmod only, no other mods!

EDIT: This can be hard to reproduce, it only happens sometimes. I thought reinstalling the mod fixed it, but I just didn't see it a few times.
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