WUP - Weapon Upgrade Project

[665c06383b06aPacmikey]

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[665c06383b23dvoodoo47]

Tacticool is popular, so people probably like it. iirc, the launcher is actually wrapped around the player's shoulder, so I imagine the right hand would be holding the upper bit from top while the left hand would be holding the lower part from the bottom. sort of a weird bazooka, if you will.

[665c06383b341Pacmikey]

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[665c06383b7bdRocketMan]

Problem is they use motions, which to my knowledge there is no way of editing. Unless someone has a secret tutorial from 15 years ago on how to import and export MI and MC files.

MotEdit ?

[665c06383baedsarge945]

I like Tacticool and Vanilla equally, depending largely on mood, and it depends on the weapon.

I really like the Vanilla pistol above all else. That utilitarian boxy design looks badass next to the curvy Tacticool one

Some suggestions for improving the vanilla models:

- The back of the handle on the vanilla pistol has a see-through part. Please fix
- If I understand the shotgun correctly, it auto-pumps rather than being hand pumped (pump on the side). Having that actually move would be badass
- The assault rifle is clearly unfinished, you can see the back part of it in-game, like the top section is missing.
- The Assault Rifle and Grenade Launcher have particularly awful textures.
- Maybe a proper handle/hilt for the Psi Sword model?
- Please remove the headphone jack from Goggles arm, modern psiAmps only support Bluetooth (as a way to make more money, no doubt). This is a joke suggestion. Actually seriously though, with a psi amp model with no cable someone could make a joke mod where the psi amp chews through batteries like crazy, just like airpods.

[665c06383c265diego]

It is. I can make the guns appear however further, closer, up/down/left/right, at any angle I want. It just depends on where the model origin is in Blender on export. If you guys have preferences for viewmodel positions let me know. Same goes for grip styles, curved thumbs, etc. I'm gonna upload at least 4 variants for every gun.All weapons are planned, this mod will be all encompassing.

This is perfect. I didn't know it was possible. I have so many ideas for this.

For many of the melee weapons, getting the entire weapon including the handle and hand on screen would be great.

This would also help with my issue with Stasis Field Generator, it is not only a low poly mess with crappy textures, it also takes way too much of the screen.

You mean Rocketmans? Right now I'm debating whether or not to bother with HD weapon mods, because when NDS releases EE they will have brand new models for all the weapons anyway.

Call me crazy but I don't fully trust them with something like this. I doubt they will do it right. I doubt they will add a second hand or add moving parts like you did.

Why not.

Cool, I will work on it and post it here when I am done with the model.

Also, if you're gonna make more than 5 posts, you should probably make an account. Save you a lot of tedium.

I come here every few months, make a few posts and disappear. I remember creating an account and creating a few posts with it few years back. I don't even remember my username anymore. I will think about it.

Lastly how many people prefer the vanilla guns to the tacticool ones? I can add a few extra polygons to them and upgrade their textures a bit.

While I have a lot of nostalgia for the game itself, I have no love for the vanilla guns. They were not great even back then,I for one wasn't impressed. I will admit I was a bit spoiled by games like Half-Life and SiN back then, but still.

[665c06383c36aPacmikey]

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[665c06383c465RocketMan]

How did I KNOW there was liquor involved in that post lol.

[665c06383c5afPacmikey]

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[665c06383c6adPacmikey]

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[665c06383cccfRocketMan]

MotEdit is part of the ShockED toolkit.  It's just a tiny little exe file that opens up stick figure like representations of the motions.  You can set keyframes, rotate any joints and save the motions so that you can edit or make your own motions.  It's not what I'd call user friendly but it's something.

https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=387.0;attach=6303&mid=920&sesc=d70f451590a3aab8a431c6699b3427183da32a16

I work exclusively in the 3ds Max space.  I dunno if v7 is new enough to run those tools you're showing on TTLG but I'm embarrassed to say I was unaware of them.  Not sure what they're capable of but I'm also interested in motions editing/creation.

EDIT:  I must be getting senile.  I even responded right after the release post asking for tutorials.  If I had to guess, it was way out of my league at the time.  Maybe I'll take another crack at it one day.

[665c06383cfd7Olfred]

I managed to edit motion files with Blender, there is some tool to convert and edit them. I've forgotten the knowledge how to do it. But I can take a look once I have a bit of time on my hand.

[665c06383d0b3Pacmikey]

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[665c06383d1bbdiego]

Of course it is popular. Like I said, I come and go often enough and this is the most exciting mod I have seen in a while.

Again, good job!

[665c06383d2b8Olfred]

I found what I have used.
Check https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136431

[665c06383d465Livo]

Fantastic work!

Stupid and very unlikely request (for only after the full version with all weapons is released): would you consider doing different sleeve versions for the three player classes, based on the official SS2 concept art by Gareth Hinds?  His website has his sketches for the Marine, PSI, Navy, & the cancelled Army classes, I can't link his website directly. I know the cutscenes are video files, but IMO it'd be a nice touch to select a particular sleeve mod before playing and then actually see changes reflecting your choice ingame.

[665c06383d55bPacmikey]

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[665c06383d64avoodoo47]

you can have specific dmls activating for specific mods.

either way, going to be looking into this later this week, expect uhh, constructive feedback.

[665c06383d762diego]

What would be the point of changing the sleeves based on class? As far as I know there is only one cutscene model of Soldier G65434-2.

By the way, do we have a resource for extracted models? I was going to create my own versions of the Statis Field Genereator and EMP rifle, but I can't seem to extract them for some reason.

[665c06383d8fdLivo]

Cheers @Pacmikey, I completely understand, compatibility with SCP & other well known mods is much more important and a bigger priority. Maybe a separate version with a billion warnings about mod incompatibility might be an option in the future, but certainly not now.

@diego you're right, the cryotube & ending videos wouldn't match. I mentioned it as SS2 is a 1st person RPG, so having some slight visual changes to reflect your career choices would be nice: Deus Ex from 2000 had your player model & brother both differ visually depending on what appearance you chose in the beginning. Also, my completely unrealistic dream wish is that either SS2 Enhanced (or more likely the SS2 Remake), alters the videos of Goggles to be real time instead: if an class sleeve mod is already available, then just a "simple" mod of different player models would be needed, plus presumably there would also be an incentive to match the cutscenes with the sleeves. Perhaps an annoying low priority suggestion for Night Dive Studios for SS2 Enhanced or the SS2 Remake releases? Maybe just the cryotube aspect & the end cutscene could be real time to save some work, I personally can live with the fancy ship views & TriOptimum promotional material still being video files. Enough thread derailment from me though!

[665c06383d9f4Pacmikey]

It would also be a lot of work something pretty minimal. I'm probably gonna wrap up the vanilla stuff and call it there.

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