The first time I tried this mod, it must have randomized outside the airlock door, which meant there was no power cell to be found in the immediate area.  In other words I was trapped, and with the decompression on my tail, I was dead within seconds.

That isn't how the randomisation works, there are three copies- one under the bench, one under the detached plating, one in the normal place. It can't spawn outside the immediate area (it's also the same situation with the access cards, they are all pre-placed and accessible in all cases as gotchas suck). The only way they can be lost is if two triggers fire at exactly the same time. This could happen, but the chance is around 1 in 500,000.

Upon entering the Engineering level for the first time, the game completely locks up after a few seconds.  It appears that it's trying to spawn all the random items but doesn't have enough space, so after a huge drop in framerate, the game slows to one frame every few minutes.  In other words, it stops completely.  I toggled the mod off and the problem went away when I reentered Engineering.

Sorry, I cannot get this to replicate at all, running through the first section of eng six times. There was a problem which could cause these symptoms but I fixed it ages ago, and even when it did occur it was not a persistent error like the one you're describing.

This has happened a couple of times already: a completely indestructible midwife spawns and hangs in midair until you attack her.

Ok, identified this and fixed it. She makes herself vulnerable when her scripted sequence ends, so if she hangs in the air she will never finish it. I couldn't get the midwife to hang in the air, but I made it vulnerable as soon as it teleports so it will be killable if it happens again.

That isn't how the randomisation works, there are three copies- one under the bench, one under the detached plating, one in the normal place. It can't spawn outside the immediate area (it's also the same situation with the access cards, they are all pre-placed and accessible in all cases as gotchas suck). The only way they can be lost is if two triggers fire at exactly the same time. This could happen, but the chance is around 1 in 500,000.

Yeah, I realized afterwards that I was doing something wrong, and it turns out Kolya was right.  But thanks for the heads up.

Sorry, I cannot get this to replicate at all, running through the first section of eng six times. There was a problem which could cause these symptoms but I fixed it ages ago, and even when it did occur it was not a persistent error like the one you're describing.

It probably has to do with my running SS2 on a dated system.  The game does have a temporary framerate delay every time the randomizer is spawning items on a fresh level load, but it never becomes so severe as when I start Engineering.  On subsequent restarts of the game (as in starting from a new game entirely) the problem may not occur.  I was able to replicate it once by doing just that: starting a new game and running straight to Engineering.

In games in which this problem has occurred, if I load the savegame on Med/Sci right before entering Engineering for the first time, the problem replicates every single time.  In games in which the problem does NOT occur in the first place, reloading Engineering causes no problems at all.

Ok, identified this and fixed it. She makes herself vulnerable when her scripted sequence ends, so if she hangs in the air she will never finish it. I couldn't get the midwife to hang in the air, but I made it vulnerable as soon as it teleports so it will be killable if it happens again.

OK thanks.

I've decided to reinstall System Shock 2 so I did with ADaoB and Zygo's Randomizer but the fact is SS2Mod Manager displays a warning about some conflict between the mods.

Too bad

I think this question has already been addressed, but you can use your discretion when it comes to mod conflicts.  I use those two mods together all the time and I don't believe they should conflict, as they alter different parts of the game.  What you mostly need to watch out for are two mods that change the gamesys (the shock.gam file) or two mods that affect the same models.

Zygo if you want I could enhance your files to be ADaoB 0.2.9. compatibile

here you go then...
as always.. ADaoB first, then this mod




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Is it possible to use this for Multiplayer? I'm guessing you've never tried it... and I'm guess the different .gams might produce separate results for each player and cause chaos...

If it is impossible, could you explain how you created the deadly decompression sequence? I would love to use that for our game.

Aha! Just what I needed Kolya, optimism. Can't wait to co-op my younger brother. Yeah I'm sending him my .gam, mesh, snd, etc. It just might work.

Ah ZYGO. The decompression event? I tested it. It doesn't affect you if you are crouching, but as soon as you stand, ARRGH. Just like in real life!     (It's still scary as shit.)
Thanks for adding that feature. We always made fun of Sholito screaming to get out when there was no danger...
Does it start the timer as soon as you begin or after you get through the vent shaft? Never just stood there, you see... Oh, and the routine where it doesn't spawn a wrench but the debris destroys that metal blocking the ladder? You got cool points for that one.

I'm sorry for necro, but is the ADaOB version working with the ADaOB v030?

Understood. Think I'll pass then.

I guess that not using ADaOB at all doesn't change Zygo's Randomizer behaviour? The only version available to download is the "ADaoB29 compatibile".

It's only unfinished in the sense that not all levels were done though. The ones that are there work fine by themselves.

it's unfinished, unupdated and its compatibility with the latest stuff has not been checked, and it seems like it can get the game into an unwinnable state, therefore the obsolete = use at your own risk tag.

feel free to remove the tag, or invent a different one if you think the current one doesn't fit.