SS2 JMP Jack's Hires Weapons with player hands

[665ba08fc836dZylonBane]

Also because single-handed wielding is like, way cooler than two-handed wielding (see collage above).

[665ba08fc84d6voodoo47]

unless you are Deus Ex 2 box art. in that case, it's lame.

[665ba08fc8c0blastonearound]

It literally doesn't improve the game, at all.

Also, the arms don't even match up to the player character as seen in the cutscenes.

Furthermore, it's literally arm models from Doom 3. Super immersion breaking.

It is a matter of opinion, I feel like it greatly improves the game.

How does it not match the cutscenes exactly? By my count nothing matches the cutscenes anymore as everything should be low poly and low resolution. Any mods you can install, including some of the stuff from the Community Patch would have that issue because it is bound to be different and higher quality than the originals.

Does the arms have "DOOM 3" written on them or something? How the hell is that immersion breaking exactly? You wouldn't know they were from Doom 3 if you weren't told.

Also because single-handed wielding is like, way cooler than two-handed wielding (see collage above).

Try single-handed wielding with a rifle, we will see how cool you look after firing it

I would say it is immersion breaking. How the hell does my character handle a rifle like that?

it's a visual enhancement mod, those are completely out of scope of the Community Patch - anomalies, discrepancies and outright bugs only. exceptions can be granted in some gray areas, like implementing the bullet hole system (was 80% finished, so very strong evidence this was only omitted because of time constraints), or the shotgun hybrid slug which now resides in the AI's inventory instead of its gun (as everyone and their grandma agrees the slug unloading is the single most annoying thing found in the game), but adding a hires version of an object which has been modified to include a new part that wasn't originally there is a 100% no can do (even if the hands actually were true to the original concept, which is indeed not the case).

this is perfectly fine as a standalone mod, available to whoever wants what it offers.

I can't argue with that.

By the way, I could work on the texture a bit to try to get it to look closer to the original arm. It should have clothing on it, and I think I can make it look well enough. Let me see what I can do.

[665ba08fc8e10lastonearound]

Could someone who has this mod installed please try this file out? If it works correctly it should resolve the clothing issue.

https://filebin.net/5iozj2mxwtnv4zal

I tried to make it but since I don't have SS2 installed at the moment I can't really test it out. I tried to guess where the clothing should be relative to the texture position, but it might be horribly wrong. I can make any adjustments necessary if needed.

[665ba08fc8f86GuyFawkesGaming]

I don't think this could be further from the intended result.
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[665ba08fc909dlastonearound]

Damn, I agree. I didn't think it was stretching the texture that much. And the way I eyeballed the alignment was way off.

But on the bright side, It also means I should be able to work something out. This would have been so much easier if I had the game installed.

[665ba08fc91a5voodoo47]

trying to nudge the texture around just by editing the texture itself is probably not going to cut it, you will have to do it the hard way and load the model into some model editor.

editing SS2 models is not considered a painless procedure.

[665ba08fc92c2lastonearound]

Ok, this is just to test it out, but could you try this?

https://filebin.net/37p7izte7l2yz6hf

It will give me a basic idea about how it all fits together.

[665ba08fc9581lastonearound]

trying to nudge the texture around just by editing the texture itself is probably not going to cut it, you will have to do it the hard way and load the model into some model editor.

editing SS2 models is not considered a painless procedure.

You are probably right, but I have my ways. Lazy ways, but they sometimes work for some reason.

[665ba08fc9859GuyFawkesGaming]

Somehow I don't think this one is any better.

EDIT:

...this is just to test it out...It will give me a basic idea about how it all fits together.

Joke's on me, I didn't read that part.

In all do seriousness I don't see what's so bad about the sleeveless arms, several of the weapons, including the pistol and laser pistol, lack sleeves on their models. I'm not trying to say inconsistencies are good, but rather JMP Jack's arms are no more or less consistent then the original hand models.

[665ba08fc9bf2lastonearound]

I think it is safe to say texture got corrupted because of the way I uploaded it. Note to self, always use winrar before uploading it.

Strangely enough, it does give me some idea about how the texture wraps the mesh (because those invisible areas are places I just left black) but not as much as I would have liked, because it got corrupted badly and it is a jumbled mess. But now I think I should be able to make it work at least.

Somehow I don't think this one is any better.

EDIT: Joke's on me, I didn't read that part.

In all do seriousness I don't see what's so bad about the sleeveless arms, several of the weapons, including the pistol and laser pistol, lack sleeves on their models. I'm not trying to say inconsistencies are good, but rather JMP Jack's arms are no more or less consistent then the original hand models.

You have a point there, it is not like changing this one texture will change anything. But I feel like some people are avoiding this mod just because they think it is inconsistent with the original game and I feel like that's just a shame. I am just hoping to resolve the issue one way or another. (And I am almost certain that I can, but that remains to be seen I suppose.)

[665ba08fc9d8cJMP-Jack]

Hi guys. Thanks to everyone.
About the arm model: yes, how I've already said, it come from doom3. I'm not a 3d modeler and human hands are very difficult to modelling. I never use blender before: I had learned something just to make this addon.

Of course that may not appeal to everyone. It's just a matter of tastes.
...but it's a free stuff! I maked this for everyone. Feel free to use it or not and feel free TO IMPROVE IT.
Bye

[665ba08fca16avoodoo47]

I think the only real problem has been the alt shotgun having messed up vhots, but that's already fixed, as we've got super-Olfred to save the daay..

texture got corrupted

I missed that somehow - almost sure you need to make it Dark compatible.