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Hello all! I installed the Steam version of System Shock 2 with all the recommended mods listed in this site's newbie guide. The game runs great although  I find the controls somewhat unintuitive.  If I search something with the 'use' key or open the map screen with 'm', I need to press the 'inventory' key to exit, whereas in most other games, the same key is used again. Cycling through different tiers of psi powers with the Functions keys is also rather annoying, and somewhat made worse by the fact they cannot be remapped.

Since many HUD functions are click activated (no key for the PDA for example, or a 'Take All' key) it would nice if the game paused while on the inventory screen.

Thanks for any help. Cheers!

665b4aa388380voodoo47

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nope, not possible to change any of that stuff.

665b4aa3884a6deadfraggle

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Dang. Well at least I was able to change the crouch button from 's'.

Thanks for the reply! I've just entered the first deck with zombie-like creatures. Could you tell me if they are endless?  I can kill 10 of them in a row with my wrench before my luck runs out, but if I run away I don't seem to encounter as many in the halls.

665b4aa388619voodoo47

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that sounds like you are triggering the alarm. don't. and yeah, they are endless - run.

665b4aa388748deadfraggle

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that sounds like you are triggering the alarm

Exactly what was happening. Impressive game considering the year it was made.  I finished Thief 2 recently and was a big fan of Bioshock 1 & 2, so I'm hoping to enjoy this too.

665b4aa388adfYankee Clipper

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Cycling through different tiers of psi powers with the Functions keys is also rather annoying, and somewhat made worse by the fact they cannot be remapped.

Sure they can. You can remap the 12 function keys to whichever psi powers you want. Using the MFD, hover your mouse over the psi power you want to assign, then hold down the "shift" key and push the function key you want assigned to that psi skill. The 'F' number will get overlaid on that skill so you can easily see what you ended up with.

665b4aa388d86ZylonBane

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it would nice if the game paused while on the inventory screen.
No, that would be smegging terrible. You're not supposed to be safe while poking around in your inventory. You're supposed to go hide somewhere if you need to do inventory stuff.

There is a shortcut key that plays the most recently picked up unread logs. Knowing that saves a lot of trips into the PDA.
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665b4aa388eebdeadfraggle

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Nice tip on the Function and shortcut keys.  Thanks!

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No, that would be smegging terrible. You're not supposed to be safe while poking around in your inventory. You're supposed to go hide somewhere if you need to do inventory stuff.
Exactly!
Things like this is why people complain that games are being turned into casual friendly piffypoffs.
You should never feel save in this game, it adds to the atmosphere. Pausing in inventory just kills this.

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To each their own. That's the beauty of modding. Nothing wrong with making anything in a game an option.

665b4aa389607voodoo47

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you gotta love the way Deus Ex handles this - if caught hacking, all enemy AIs will respectably wait until you are done and only then blow your head off.

did this get fixed in GM DE, btw?

665b4aa389739ZylonBane

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Also, there's nothing wrong with putting strawberry frosting on a steak. It just makes you the sort of person who puts strawberry frosting on a steak.

665b4aa389837deadfraggle

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If someone enjoys eating a steak that way, why should I care?
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Because just thinking about it gives you nightmares

665b4aa3899ebvoodoo47

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I don't care unless I have to watch (as a strawberry steak is being eaten).

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Funny how some people are so concerned over what others choose to enjoy.  As long as it isn't hurting anyone, I'd pass the strawberry frosting, wish the diner "bon appétit" and be happy I was able to help.

665b4aa389bc0voodoo47

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as long as I don't have to watch (and hear, and smell). my standard policy with pretty much everything.

665b4aa389eccdeadfraggle

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did this get fixed in GM DE, btw?

Was this directed at me? Not sure what you mean.

665b4aa38a013voodoo47

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just a general question, the GMDE dev hangs around the forum.

665b4aa38a30eZylonBane

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Funny how some people are so concerned over what others choose to enjoy.  As long as it isn't hurting anyone, I'd pass the strawberry frosting, wish the diner "bon appétit" and be happy I was able to help.
How cheerfully sociopathic.

665b4aa38a637deadfraggle

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How cheerfully sociopathic.

How egotistically discourteous.
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665b4aa38a73aZylonBane

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Well as long as we understand each other.
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did this get fixed in GM DE, btw?

GMDX? Yes, you are no longer invisible whilst hacking. AI still courteously wait around for you to finish a conversation though, not really anything I can do about that unfortunately but it is a rare occurrence anyhow.
I did consider having inventory not pause the game on hardcore mode too because I love that about System Shock, Underworld, Dark Souls etc, but I decided against it, I don't remember why.

If someone enjoys eating a steak that way, why should I care?

Because if more people conformed to our favored style of design it would be more in demand. It gets frustrating that this masterful design is the underdog to "AAA" garbage in terms of popularity and financial success....at least that is why I care. ZylonBane is probably just enjoying fucking with you. You come to warm to his douchebaggery after an extended period of time.
« Last Edit: 21. April 2015, 21:57:50 by Join usss! »
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You're not going to win any hearts by telling people what they should like. If the game cannot make this apparent by itself then maybe they just have a valid different taste.
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