SS2 Four Hundred (400)

[665b146027959Kyle873]

System's on a bug-hunt, look out!

[665b146027ce3ACC]

I know, but can you fix that?

I can't.

Replace fam/acc/mtlbeam5c.png with this one.

[665b146027e39Kyle873]

See, that's the one thing that sucks about this whole anonymous patch thing. That surface sorting issue looks like a legitimate bug but who do we even report it to? That is unless said anonymous person actually browses this board and HAPPENS to notice the post about it.

[665b146028052voodoo47]

there is a good chance that the Raven watches from somewhere - remember, he posted the dromed shadow fix virtually hours after it has been discovered on TTLG. most people report the issues on the forum in the hope he is still watching - all we can do is do the same.

anyway, the issue on the fourth picture is already fixed in the wip map pack.

[665b146028212System]

in the original
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[665b146028477ACC]

in the original

I don't get it...

[665b1460285aevoodoo47]

yeah, no idea what that screen is supposed to represent.

[665b1460288adGR]

I don't get it...

Either he was talking about the cloudiness of the glass, or the look of the striped lines beyond the glass.  :\

[665b146028c37blaydes99]

ACC, I beg of you... please fix this texture?!? Pretty please?

[665b146028d74voodoo47]

yeah, that one is like "nobody really pays attention in the training phase, so lets just slap on some texture, a reaaal ugly one, so we can go home early today."

[665b146028eceZylonBane]

I'm sure it was a perfectly lovely texture before it got posterized like that. 256-color palettes aren't kind to subtle gradients.

[665b146029005Simplex]

I personally think that redoing training-only textures should be last on the list.

[665b146029103ZylonBane]

Just smoothing out the posterization on that texture, without up-rezzing it or anything, would take like 5 minutes.

[665b146029420ACC]

I will. I'm on a short break right now (I swear it's not up to me) -- got a few more textures in operations to prove it.
Anyway, (I think) some of theses textures are also part of the Rickenbacker, so don't worry, it's going to happen.
(trivia: last time I checked, screens apart, four hundred coverd like 1/3 of the textures)

yeah, that one is like "nobody really pays attention in the training phase, so lets just slap on some texture, a reaaal ugly one, so we can go home early today."

(I LOL'd. Hard. )

[665b14602957aakumaKAERU]

I know this thread is primarily for bug reports, which I will be submitting later...

SHTUP and Four Hundred seem to have similar goals. Will the two ever merge?

I would love to help complete the texture upgrades for both mods but I'm not sure if upgrading a texture for one will just be doing more work than is necessary to give SS2 those lovely hi-res textures we are all looking for.

[665b146029679voodoo47]

no. 400 updates world textures, SHTUP updates object textures. merging them would be counter-productive.

[665b14602982bakumaKAERU]

Huh? I'm confused as to what is world and what is object.

So this is an object?
https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22.0;attach=6240;image

Does this have an object (the sign above the door) and a world texture (the door itself)?
https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22.0;attach=6245;image

I don't do any modding, even though I have read some topics in MOTHER, so I don't fully understand the concepts between the two.

[665b146029c44RocketMan]

One has to do with architecture.  When you carve out the level and slap a texture on the surface of a wall or something that belongs to the level architecture, that's one thing.  If you put a box in the world, that's an object and the texture it gets is treated entirely differently from the one on the wall.

[665b146029d5bakumaKAERU]

Thanks RocketMan! I have read the basics of carving out levels so I understood that part.

So the geometry of walls floor and ceiling are considered world, and anything that's not "carved" out of the universe is considered object?

[665b146029ee2akumaKAERU]

There is also this image from Four Hundred...

http://gaarabis.free.fr/_acc/_Shock2/02gallery/Ops.jpg

If you look at the top right-hand portion of the screen there is the animated spinning tri-optimum logo that is in the 4x sample. Wouldn't that be considered not a world texture? If they are then the animated display terminal panels would also be textures that can be applied to wall/floor/ceiling geometry. Which I had a funny feeling were part of another mod...

[665b146029fdaACC]

Release 13...

[665b14602a14dHikari]

Keep it up guys. You're doing awesome in keeping an Old Gem looking as good as reasonably possible while maintaining the look it originally had.

[665b14602a282Salk]

Great work, ACC!

Thanks!

[665b14602a4a2System]

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